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	<title>Comments on: Wikipedia Weekly 5 - Arbcom, WP 0.5 and &#8220;Wiki&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2006/11/15/wikipedia-weekly-5-arbcom-wp-05-and-wiki/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the advertisements:
I agree that the Google Search box holds the most promise and is the most useful. But I think the text ads could work as well, you can find a proof-of-concept &lt;a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2006/11/03/wikipedia-proposal-part-5/#c1210058" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

But I think there is something that is a lot more exciting than ads, namely "Crowd Funding" (like &lt;a href="http://www.sellaband.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SellaBand.com&lt;/a&gt; for example), read my comment on Jimmy Wales' Blog &lt;a href="http://blog.jimmywales.com/index.php/archives/2006/10/31/advertising-and-wikipedia/#comment-6286" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I later found out that Larry Sanger had already written a good article on this subject &lt;a href="http://www.citizendium.org/contentbrokers.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Role of Content Brokers in the Era of Free Content&lt;/a&gt;. (Maybe you could do another special with Larry Sanger on this subject). 

But to come back to the subject of ads, I thought that maybe advertisement revenue could be used to jumpstart a crowd funding initiative. Once it gets going and more people see how it works and join in then I think there won't be a need for ads anymore. Wikipedia could be funded by taking a small part from the "crowd fund", the rest would be used to free up content, like eBooks, music, software, etc. However this might be better suited for Citizendium instead of Wikipedia, because buying content from the 'elite' might be seen as a bad thing by some Wikipedians? Maybe it is good to discuss the issue of crowd funding first, because there might be other options to jumpstart this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the advertisements:<br />
I agree that the Google Search box holds the most promise and is the most useful. But I think the text ads could work as well, you can find a proof-of-concept <a href="http://www.calacanis.com/2006/11/03/wikipedia-proposal-part-5/#c1210058" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.calacanis.com');">here</a>.</p>
<p>But I think there is something that is a lot more exciting than ads, namely &#8220;Crowd Funding&#8221; (like <a href="http://www.sellaband.com/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.sellaband.com');">SellaBand.com</a> for example), read my comment on Jimmy Wales&#8217; Blog <a href="http://blog.jimmywales.com/index.php/archives/2006/10/31/advertising-and-wikipedia/#comment-6286" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/blog.jimmywales.com');">here</a>.  I later found out that Larry Sanger had already written a good article on this subject <a href="http://www.citizendium.org/contentbrokers.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.citizendium.org');">The Role of Content Brokers in the Era of Free Content</a>. (Maybe you could do another special with Larry Sanger on this subject). </p>
<p>But to come back to the subject of ads, I thought that maybe advertisement revenue could be used to jumpstart a crowd funding initiative. Once it gets going and more people see how it works and join in then I think there won&#8217;t be a need for ads anymore. Wikipedia could be funded by taking a small part from the &#8220;crowd fund&#8221;, the rest would be used to free up content, like eBooks, music, software, etc. However this might be better suited for Citizendium instead of Wikipedia, because buying content from the &#8216;elite&#8217; might be seen as a bad thing by some Wikipedians? Maybe it is good to discuss the issue of crowd funding first, because there might be other options to jumpstart this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, it's making edit count a almost trivial figure, AntiVandalBot itself gets around 5K reverts a day when it's running full tilt.  Of course, with the site being more popular, we get more silly vandals and its just boom, more bot work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, it&#8217;s making edit count a almost trivial figure, AntiVandalBot itself gets around 5K reverts a day when it&#8217;s running full tilt.  Of course, with the site being more popular, we get more silly vandals and its just boom, more bot work.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2006/11/15/wikipedia-weekly-5-arbcom-wp-05-and-wiki/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that the decrease in article count per month and a 'deletionist attitude' is in part due to some vandal tools becoming more honed; for instance, over at #wikipedia-spam LinkWatcher will let you know when anything with an http:// is added. this clearly shows articles, for instance, named [[The Band Kids]], added by [[User:TheBandKids]] who added http://www.thebandkids.com . Boom, gone. VP1.3 and VP2.0 are making it really easy to spot and ban vandals before they can create beaucoup cruft. I can rack up over 500 vandal edits towards this in half a day with VP1.3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that the decrease in article count per month and a &#8216;deletionist attitude&#8217; is in part due to some vandal tools becoming more honed; for instance, over at #wikipedia-spam LinkWatcher will let you know when anything with an <a href="http://" rel="nofollow">http://</a> is added. this clearly shows articles, for instance, named [[The Band Kids]], added by [[User:TheBandKids]] who added <a href="http://www.thebandkids.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebandkids.com</a> . Boom, gone. VP1.3 and VP2.0 are making it really easy to spot and ban vandals before they can create beaucoup cruft. I can rack up over 500 vandal edits towards this in half a day with VP1.3.</p>
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