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	<title>Comments on: Episode 44: Stable Perversions</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes you need a client and a distribution way. But as at SETI, the hole Data is cut in peaces and is distrubuted to the clients.
I think to find someone or a group of people who would set something like this up, you have to post this idea on differnt sides (wikipedia statistics?) and other blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes you need a client and a distribution way. But as at SETI, the hole Data is cut in peaces and is distrubuted to the clients.<br />
I think to find someone or a group of people who would set something like this up, you have to post this idea on differnt sides (wikipedia statistics?) and other blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawker</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7694</link>
		<dc:creator>Tawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jan

One of the problems I could see w/ a distributed structure is the need for a box in any case to distribute the chunks of the 130GB or so dump and control the whole thing.

That, and we'd need a client.  Anyone care to write one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jan</p>
<p>One of the problems I could see w/ a distributed structure is the need for a box in any case to distribute the chunks of the 130GB or so dump and control the whole thing.</p>
<p>That, and we&#8217;d need a client.  Anyone care to write one?</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7692</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

if you need such a great amount of CPU power to do the statistics for the wikipedia, why don´t you split the CPU Power an a lot aff computers, like the SETI project. Distributet computing is the name for it. That would be a cheap way to get anough CPU power</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>if you need such a great amount of CPU power to do the statistics for the wikipedia, why don´t you split the CPU Power an a lot aff computers, like the SETI project. Distributet computing is the name for it. That would be a cheap way to get anough CPU power</p>
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		<title>By: User:Ziko-en</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7690</link>
		<dc:creator>User:Ziko-en</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I would like to hear in WW more about the Wikipedia language versions, what happens in e.g. the Japanese or the Finnish Wikipedia.
en:User:Ziko-en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I would like to hear in WW more about the Wikipedia language versions, what happens in e.g. the Japanese or the Finnish Wikipedia.<br />
en:User:Ziko-en</p>
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		<title>By: Sage (User:Ragesoss)</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7686</link>
		<dc:creator>Sage (User:Ragesoss)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops... commented to soon.  The system is working; my constructive anonymous edit got approved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230; commented to soon.  The system is working; my constructive anonymous edit got approved.</p>
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		<title>By: Sage (User:Ragesoss)</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7685</link>
		<dc:creator>Sage (User:Ragesoss)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added them to the test wiki front page.  Hopefully someone with reviewer rights will approve my edit sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added them to the test wiki front page.  Hopefully someone with reviewer rights will approve my edit sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Lih</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7684</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Lih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sage, thanks for the pointers and I wonder why those links are not presented on the front page of http://en.labs.wikimedia.org. Seems like a major oversight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sage, thanks for the pointers and I wonder why those links are not presented on the front page of <a href="http://en.labs.wikimedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.labs.wikimedia.org</a>. Seems like a major oversight.</p>
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		<title>By: Sage (User:Ragesoss)</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7683</link>
		<dc:creator>Sage (User:Ragesoss)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relevant links...
Animated Wikipedia growth on Infodisiac: http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/Wikistats/Animation.html
Henrik's tool: http://stats.grok.se/
Stable versions test wiki: http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

This Flagged Revisions discussion would have been greatly improved if everyone was familiar with the actual proposals on en-wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Sighted_versions
and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Quality_versions

There are separate proposals for "sighted versions" and "quality versions".  Marking "sighted versions", which just means free of vandalism and is essentially a more open replacement for semi-protection (although the requirement for sighter status is currently proposed as somewhat higher than autoconfirmation) is proposed as the first step.

The more radical change is to actually certify versions according to quality, which will require a more serious introduction of a 'higher' form of editor.

The test wiki doesn't reflect the en-wiki proposals as they currently stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relevant links&#8230;<br />
Animated Wikipedia growth on Infodisiac: <a href="http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/Wikistats/Animation.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/Wikistats/Animation.html</a><br />
Henrik&#8217;s tool: <a href="http://stats.grok.se/" rel="nofollow">http://stats.grok.se/</a><br />
Stable versions test wiki: <a href="http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://en.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page</a></p>
<p>This Flagged Revisions discussion would have been greatly improved if everyone was familiar with the actual proposals on en-wiki:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Sighted_versions" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Sighted_versions</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Quality_versions" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Quality_versions</a></p>
<p>There are separate proposals for &#8220;sighted versions&#8221; and &#8220;quality versions&#8221;.  Marking &#8220;sighted versions&#8221;, which just means free of vandalism and is essentially a more open replacement for semi-protection (although the requirement for sighter status is currently proposed as somewhat higher than autoconfirmation) is proposed as the first step.</p>
<p>The more radical change is to actually certify versions according to quality, which will require a more serious introduction of a &#8216;higher&#8217; form of editor.</p>
<p>The test wiki doesn&#8217;t reflect the en-wiki proposals as they currently stand.</p>
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		<title>By: kaldari</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7682</link>
		<dc:creator>kaldari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, "Dutch" and "Danish" do not refer to the same country. Dutch is the Netherlands. Danish is Denmark. Fitna and Jyllands-Posten are not from the same country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, &#8220;Dutch&#8221; and &#8220;Danish&#8221; do not refer to the same country. Dutch is the Netherlands. Danish is Denmark. Fitna and Jyllands-Posten are not from the same country.</p>
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		<title>By: kaldari</title>
		<link>http://wikipediaweekly.org/2008/04/03/episode-44stable-perversions/#comment-7681</link>
		<dc:creator>kaldari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your idea that reviewer status should be given to all editors defeats the entire purpose of the reviewing system. How would a completely open reviewing system insure that certain Wikipedia content is actually reliable? Articles marked as reviewed would have no more editorial safeguards than the articles we have now. You would just have to trust whoever was the last person to have reviewed the article (which could easily be a vandal). It would basically just give vandals a new way of committing vandalism. Stop worshipping the "anyone can edit" mantra and think seriously about how we can use these tools to make Wikipedia a reliable resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your idea that reviewer status should be given to all editors defeats the entire purpose of the reviewing system. How would a completely open reviewing system insure that certain Wikipedia content is actually reliable? Articles marked as reviewed would have no more editorial safeguards than the articles we have now. You would just have to trust whoever was the last person to have reviewed the article (which could easily be a vandal). It would basically just give vandals a new way of committing vandalism. Stop worshipping the &#8220;anyone can edit&#8221; mantra and think seriously about how we can use these tools to make Wikipedia a reliable resource.</p>
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